New system aimed primarily at matching newer sellers with buyers
So now it seems I have to wait two hours before I can bid for a job. This is extremely unfair. Not only do experienced creatives/designers have to compete with an unfair playing field, ie people offered to do a job for £10 when it is clearly worth £100, we are now not allowed to bid for jobs as soon as they appear on PPH. What kind of system is this?!
Awful. Unfair. Unprofessional. Discriminatory.
Regards
C. Howe
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not being rude to new people but is it old freelancers fault that they sign up late?
they should be man up and get their jobs
PPH should not feed then rather then teach them to huntand important thing is we are once newbies what PPH does to us
we are the reason that they got awards and stuff in 2011is thats how they repay?
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I'm glad to hear that there are other professionals in this community that feel as let down by this site as I do.
This new bidding system is single handedly ruining my business, as I imagine many of yours.
I am a freelance illustrator and designer, a cutthroat career as it is. Before the CERT implementation, I used to make a decent living gaining new work and clients through PPH and steadily building up my profile to a respectable level. Since CERT's appearance it has steadily decreased any chances of finding work and communicating with potential clients. In the last 2-3 weeks I have had one decent project in. And that was a private client off my own back.
The fact that a job is listed on this site that I know for a fact I could do, provide an excellent service and leave the client wanting to return, is impeded by this '2 hour slot' they have enforced to match sellers to buyers.
IT DOESN'T WORK.
Not once but a handful of times in the last few days, I have been invited to work on projects which completely mismatched my skill set. I am listed as an illustrator and a designer not a, wait for it, web developer or 3D modeler!
I don't know how to develop an app nor build a website. I wouldn't know hot to code if my life depended on it, let alone run a business about it.
PPH really need to sort out this ridiculously damaging mechanic.
Rant over.
Luke
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Hey Guys, Just found this thread after being away from PPH for a few days and so only noticing what's going on. I thought it was just a glitch on my account until I found this! I've been trying to apply for a shitload of jobs all day only to be told to "update my profile" or that "this job is private", etc, etc.!
I have emailed them about 4 times today alone regarding the matter.
It's absolute crap! It's like the time they started trying to only allow members of the same sex to work with each other. Who the hell is the moron coming up with these ideas????
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Oh yes I agree with most of the respondents here. Jobs for which I seem perfected suited, as a graphic designer I can't bid on for two hours. And yet I get invited to put a bid in to do some polystyrene sculptures and some sewing of scarves - I certainly haven't list either of these as amongst my many and varied talents! When I do get invited it is often in the early hours, meaning the 2-hour exculsion period is finished before I switch on my computer in the morning at 7.00am.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE - lets go back to the old system.
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Hi,
Thank god I am not the only one, I know that my ranking on here is only coming into level 2 but I am more than capable on bidding for a quite a lot of jobs on here, especially the design jobs, I know the feeling of paying say £10 for a £100 worth of work and it is true to say that eventually clients will see the difference, however I have to agree that this system is completely unfair, how are we all supposed to climb the ladder if your not giving us the opportunity to bid on jobs. Everyone should be Equal on and to go back no my self, I will say that clients will realise anyway if a Freelancer is giving them shit work, on this note the client should realise you get what you pay for, if the clients are only willing to pay £10 for £100 illustration, they can't expect even the most talented freelancer to do work for that price. Please make it fair and change the system back.
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The Most Ridiculous System PPH ever launched!
I cant bid in the job matched with my skills mentioned in my profile and they kept sending me all those trash saying that I'v been selected for this **** because I have this this and that skill which I never even heard of!
Get a life PPH or let us know if we existing sellers are not allowed here anymore! -
i have read through these comments and agree with most of them _
like everyone here _ i'm being denied access to jobs that i have the requisite skills for
pph are not doing anything anywhere fast enough to resolve this issue _ and they appear to have forgotten that the sellers are also affected because they can't get work started _
i have lodged a complaint as suggested above _ i agree with the suggestion that everyone should contact support with complaints AND if still no response then they should vote with their feet _ there are alternatives
and to any pph staff reading this comment _ GET RID OF THIS PROHIBITIVE FEATURE TODAY! >: ( -
The effect of the time restriction on this feature has a wider impact than just two hours - there's a job that's just been posted that I want to pitch for but can't because I'm barred from it. But I won't be at my desk in two hours, and won't be able to a pitch until much later today, further decreasing my chances of winning the job. Obviously jobs are posted when they're posted, and I can't always pitch for them when they appear, but the fact that I COULD pitch for this one now but PPH itself is stopping me doing it is so frustrating!
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I wonder how many people frustrated by the two hour delay understand that the buyer doesn't get an immediate email about the proposal if the proposal isn't featured? PPH makes the proposal available online immediately but that relies on the buyer actually being online. So, a normal proposal made at 2PM is not notified to the buyer - they have to look online, or wait until they receive an email digest of proposals at the end of the day.
For all I know, the 'chosen people' that can bid in the two hour window are subject to the same delays.
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You should be able to apply to whatever you want. PPH should not be able to control what your skills are and who gets into the talent pool just because of the skills that are entered. Isn't it what is put into the cover letter that an emploer pays most attention to in the end that fully matters on whether or not a person gets hired??? I consider this to be discriminatory and it should seriously be looked at and corrected. I am missing out on applying to positions and unable to prove this two job set up that they want new members to do.
So if I cannot even apply to the two jobs that are wanted what does that do... kick me out?! Great!! *rolls eyes* That's quite biased especially considering as to how a system is set up. I'm very upset on this issue and feel as though this system is not allowing my capabilities to be fully seen by employers who are in need. And yes, I am considering the idea of closing the account because of how PPH has chosen to intentionally run it. And yes, I will let everyone know how bias they are being should this matter not be corrected.
As the old saying goes, if it isn't broke don't fix it!
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Great shame that this feature has been introduced. I registered with Peopleperhour yesterday as a result of reading about it in the Guardian newspaper. I've already seen two urgent jobs which I would have been ideally suited to do. I realise I probably wouldn't have got the work so soon, but I had hoped to gain experience in submitting proposals. Now I discovered that I can't even do that. How is Peopleperhour going to expand if it completely blocks new sellers in this way?
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To put my two cents in, I think the feature is complete rubbish! Just get rid of it, please!
If you really must keep it, half an hour for 'selected sellers' is more than enough time. I can't count the number of jobs i've missed, I have to bookmark the URLs of jobs i know my skills match and my previous experience on here with 100% feedback backs that up, to come back to at different times (2 hours after they've been posted!) most of the time to see the job already awarded.
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the irony Janet is that pph are saying this new system is supposed to help newcomers!!
i have had an exchange of emails with pph support today _ i mentioned all the complaints and issues in this thread and even provided a direct link to it _
sadly_ the replies continue to simply asked for patience
i include here my last response to supportthank you again for your reply (name of support person)
since writing to you i have Googled 'websites like peopleperhour'
i am currently running through the list Google responded with
and have already registered a new account with one
i must admit to being saddened that i have felt it necessary to do this
but i am also certain that i am not the only pph account holder who has made a similar decision today
perhaps you would be kind enough to pass this message on
to whomsoever you think should be appraised of its contenttake care
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Well, I have missed out on several jobs today that are perfect for me (graphic designer), and I have excellent 5 star reviews for similar jobs, but not to fear, because PPH decided I was perfect for this job....
"Electronics design / circuit design - select inductor for simple buck regulator".
Suddenly, I have become a rocket scientist. Meanwhile, the hand on my cert level clock ticks increasingly backwards.
I'm thinking along the lines now of when I get the chance to make a proposal on jobs I am totally unsuitable for that I should let the buyer know that they are not being matched up correctly for the right people to do the job. It doesn't cost a proposal credit and it will make buyers aware of this new feature which could be harming their chance of having the job completed by the best people on PPH.
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Not too sure why my previous comment wasn't published, I guess it might have something to do with me saying i consider very seriously leaving pph for good. Despite i haven't done any web design or word press job on here i became suddenly master of wp and receive at least one invitation 6to do the job in this area.
In the same time i haven't received any invitation to print related graphic design which is my primary source on incomes.
My income on pph went down from almost £700 in april to less than £200 in june.
Sorry pph, i can't accept this
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it is awful that we are forced into these circumstances _ but sadly pph have a history of not doing anything to correct faults in the system _ even those that have been engineered in _
one can only (and sadly) draw the conclusion that some kind of action is the only way to bring the management to their senses _ i've already enrolled on two other freelancer sites today _ and have informed support@pph about this move _ so we either vote with our feet or we organise some kind of group-signed letter sent direct to the management and explaining what we know (the background to the implementation of this system etc) or _ as Mike states above_ we contact whichever sellers we are allowed to erroneously bid on and explain what is happening on pph to them _
what must be borne in mind however is that pph can react adversely to any such activity _ it would cost them nothing at all to simply shut people out of their accounts -
My most unsuitable selected seller opportunity today was for Credit Account Management. I think it is something to do with finance but as I'm a graphic designer I'm not too sure about that sort of thing.
Interestingly, I have had quite a lot of direct invitations from buyers for more suitable jobs today, far more than normal. Is it a coincidence? Or are some more experienced buyers starting to realise that they now have to do more of the pre-selection work themselves in order to get a better chance of getting proposals from people with the right skills for their needs?
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Thanks PPH for all the times that you have selected me to be one of the few selected sellers able to bid for jobs in the first 2 hours today. Unfortunately all 9 times you have selected me for jobs in website building, development, amending etc due to my 'skills in website development' which I actually don't have nor have I listed it as one of my skills. My favourite job that I was selected for due to 'my skills' was a website design job in Spanish! It probably would be a great job to do if only I could build websites and speak Spanish!! I am a VA/PA/Administrator and all of my skills are relevant to these roles not website development! Frankly I'm getting very annoyed and frustrated by this ridiculous new system that is delaying me from making proposals for jobs which I am suitably skilled yet is selecting me for jobs for which I have absolutely no skills whatsoever. It is a good job that I have sold a couple of hourlies lately or else I wouldn't be earning anything despite sending 44 proposals in June. It's already hard enough winning jobs in admin due to the low fees that some freelancers are willing to do the work for.
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just received in email _
must be some sort of joke.... >: \|
325 new Jobs posted
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Hey maik,This is your fresh-from-the-market summary of new Jobs posted on PeoplePerHour.
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You have 86 Proposal credits remaining that expire in 5 days. Use them to send more Proposals and win extra work!
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Please banish this new addition. My inbox is flooded with messages from PPH. They contain 100's of jobs that I am not interested in. I only sell hourlies, I don't do proposals. I am thinking about removing every skill from my profile so that I will not have to deal with those notifications.
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PPH please change this system, like everyone else I am getting really pissed off, not for the sake of not being selected to bid but for sake of not being able to bit for jobs sooner rather than waiting an hour before I bid for job or job's that I am more than qualified to do, these include: Website development and design, CMS management and design, Graphic Design, Photo manipulation amongst many more.
Kind Regards
Simon
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From starting this site recently I can't see how this helps anyone, I worked up my cert through hard work and now this new system is in place I can't get to any jobs. I'm getting selected for the wrong jobs while watching other perfect ones drift away. I this isn't something that needs to be fixed, just plain removed.
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