New system aimed primarily at matching newer sellers with buyers
So now it seems I have to wait two hours before I can bid for a job. This is extremely unfair. Not only do experienced creatives/designers have to compete with an unfair playing field, ie people offered to do a job for £10 when it is clearly worth £100, we are now not allowed to bid for jobs as soon as they appear on PPH. What kind of system is this?!
Awful. Unfair. Unprofessional. Discriminatory.
Regards
C. Howe
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Dear PPH,
I so not have, never have had, nor am I likely to ever have skills in legal, Japanese, web development, or design!
If I did have these skills I would have listed them in the skills part of my profile.
Please stop sending me emails saying that I have been selected to apply for jobs requiring these skills and a whole host of others which I also don't have. Clearly your automated skill matching system is CRAP!! -
At this stage I given up on PPH. There are more hoops to jump though than a circus ring.
I've had my (approved) payment for completed work, withheld with no forewarning that this could even happen. The function of the alleged help desk seems to be to structure as may platitudes as possible without actually addressing what has been said. Now I find I have to go though the application process again despite having already done work though the site.
As someone posted on another (now locked) thread on this same subject, these changes seem to be a long F(%$ off. So it seems to be the best thing to do. The site seemed great when I first looked into it, but in the time I've been here, it seems to be about constantly created new and more imaginative hurdles to block any progress as fa as finding wok is concerned. It now seems more like a social experiment to see how many hoops people will jump through, rather than a market place for sellers and buyers to meet.
I doubt this will be addressed as addressing sellers concerns doesn't seem to be in PPH's remit.
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Apparently I am now a solicitor as well a a bookkeeper.
The scary thing is that I do no something about accounting (but how to analyse accounts, which is a different skill from keeping them) and I have studied some law (although not as much as an actual lawyer). There is nothing to indicate this in my PPH profile, and the latter is not indicated by the Linked in profile either - so just where is PPH getting the information from?
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@Graeme (or anyone elsewho might know)
I have also been puzzled by the "jobs" I am sent. Do you think that PPH is datamining us? My linked-in profile is linked and I am told that it isn't difficult to accumulate data on an individual, although this isn't an area I know much about and I would be interested in comments from any PPHers who do know about this.
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I'm adding my voice to this cacophony of complaints PPH. I am an editor - I edit print materials and online. I have nothing WHATSOEVER to do with video editing, and yet I am constantly being invited to bid early on video-related jobs. Not only is this a waste of everyone's time, but it is impossible for me to remedy, since the tag "editing" seems to be used for both purposes. I have tried to change the tag in my profile to "copyediting" but that tag does not exist (why not I have no idea, since copyediting is not exactly a new or rare freelance activity). I have suggested "copyediting" and indeed "copy editing" be added as tags through your "suggest a tag" system, but to no avail.
Given that editing - and indeed publishing in general - is increasingly moving towards freelancers as its main source of workers, I would have thought you would be interested in optimising your site for use by freelance editors and clients looking for freelance editors. Instead I find very little to help either. No wonder you have so few jobs advertised in this area - and even worse - I cannot even bid for them due to this tagging fiasco!
Extremely frustrated and p----d off.
Rebecca
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Why do these threads get published in reverse order!!
And DeskDonkie - I gave up on that when the PPH employee was pumping me for 'how it should work'!! Well I offered to answer his questions for a fee!!! :)
PPH have never been bothered in Sellers...even though we make their profit...if they make a profit that is.
If a Buyer complains about being badgered by Selllers, they limit the number clarification mails, or being able to contact customer disappeared!!
Still if customer can't explain or not bothered to answer clarification question...then they are not worth knowling
Rob
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It's all going a bit pear shaped isn't it? I've also noticed the jobs in the writing section are getting worse and worse, as in collating less and less, with more Indian jobs coming up and less from the UK. And when UK jobs are coming up they're low paid, you used to be able to find the odd nugget. I just rely on the odd hour lie here and there and spend less time on here.
Are they actually listening to us?
Gill
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Everything is now low paid on here, as PPH have expanded world wide, added in 'No contacting customers direct' due to Indian spammers sorry Asian professional programmers.
Adding in Hourlies - Posh Fiverr concept.
I never bid for anything unless the buyer is prepared to answer my questions. Never ever 'bid blindly' for anything.
If the buyer cannot be arsed to:
1) write of full brief, or even a concise brief with details.
2) If they can't manage point 1 then answer clarification questions
3) if they can't manage point 1 or 2....
Don't waste your valuable time on them.
The idea that anyone would buy without finding out what the seller can do, or anyone would bid before they knew exactly what they were getting themselves into is a nightmare!!!!
Just my pennieth worth, having been here since near the beginning
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I was intrigued by the DeskDonkie name too - rather revealing of their attitude towards sellers! And it is still DeskDonkie on email too, despite the email address being info@supertasker.com.
I had a look at the SuperTasker website. They're keen to sign up buyers, but if you want to sell your services and be a "Tasker" you have to be culled from among the high CERT scorers on PPH. Rubbish for me, since despite doing well as a freelance editor on other platforms, on PPH I have no reputation as one since I would need to accept jobs for a pittance (we're talking Rupees) in order to get any editing work on here. The hourlies I manage to sell do not relate to my main skills - they relate directly to how few hourlies there are in that particular market. My opportunity to work on SuperTasker is predetermined by what everyone here agrees is a failing platform - PPH.
SuperTasker / DeskDonkie is doomed before it even gets off the ground because it has exactly the same mentality as PPH.
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Desk Donkie - wanted me to provide costings on tasks for SEO/Development etc.
They asked me why I didn't enter how much I would charge for 'Link Building' ie $5 = 10 back links.
I had to point out that it breaks Google's T&C's and why would I want to do that as a Professional!!!
So to me, Desk Donkie is equal to Fiverr.com, PPH is still the posh Fiverr.
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Like many others, I am a Cert 4 and although I offer legal work, contracts etc, I get offered Website, CRMs and App job matches.
When I do get a job match (this morning for example). For Employer Terms. I placed a bid along with another freelancer who was a web designer, Marketing exc and Copyrighter. How on earth is the system matching that type of work with a legal practice?.
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I've given up on the Cert thing. I've just dropped down a level simply because a long term job I'm doing isn't paying every five minutes. There are bursts of activity on the work page but not an hour by hour conversation. The client is busy, and so am I, working. Yet, the notification I get is that somehow I'm not performing as well as I was previously. That's a load of guff. Additionally, it's not correct to say that PPH doesn't use these in Certs as grading for buyers - just look at the search function for buyers - they're given a selection that includes top Cert people.
It's set up to look as though it's simply a carrot on a stick for freelancers here to bring in more work, but actually it creates frustration - if you let it - because we're constantly dropping down the Cert grades if we're not pumping money into the machine. So I've stopped bothering about it. I'm just going to carry on doing what I do best and stop getting disillusioned when I see my Cert level drop yet again for some reason that isn't down to any failure on my part.
As for those emails exhorting us to rush for this job or that job because "you're a perfect fit", it seems they need a good coder who can write good algorithms. You can see what's happened. They sent out one of those "you'd be a perfect fit" emails and an aspiring cartoonist got the job for thruppence a day.
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Oh and another thing. How come PPH allows jobs like web scraping for specific target areas. That's illegal under any copyright law anywhere unless a particular website specifically states that the content is free and open to use. I'm astonished when I see work like that appearing in the list - and even more astonished when I see people bidding for it.
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it seems they need a good coder who can write good algorithms.
Well, no.
They just don't have access to consistent data on which to do the matching reliably in all/most cases. They can have the most brilliant coders but the underlying data is not there for consistent, reliable skill matching. Nor can they get that data put in place.
I thought PPH would have seen the light some time back, but then again, it's PPH.
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