An Open Letter to People Per Hour: Please Comment Below on Payments
Dear People Per Hour,
I wanted to let you know just how much havoc, chaos and panic you have caused in my life since you announced your decision to subject us to the new payment clearance process and times. If you are a freelancer reading this, please comment below so we can try to support each other and so that we can let PPH know what damage this is causing us and that we, as freelancers, are not only the lifeblood of the platform but also real people with real lives and families to support.
I am a freelancer, but I am also a single parent to two young children. We have all lived through a year and a half of the most disruptive time in any of our lives due to the pandemic. I am sure it hasn’t escaped PPH’s attention that freelancers have had a rough ride during this time. I am mainly referring to the UK here as that is where I am from, but I am sure these problems are global for freelancers. As freelancers, we did not enjoy the benefits of furlough, of the Job Retention Scheme and many of us were not eligible for government grants or benefits. As we start to move out of the pandemic, many of us are reeling from the effects and have now been served a huge blow by PPH-a platform that is supposed to support us as freelancers and make our lives easier-by making us wait up to 18 days to receive money we have earned and worked hard for.
I don’t know about other freelancers, but my family relies solely on the money I earn from PPH and we live from invoice payment to invoice payment. We don’t live beyond our means, there is only me earning money and I work very hard.
On Friday, I came to the realisation that due to the new payment clearing processes, we did not have enough food to last us the weekend, let alone 18 more days. My rent was due on Friday, and I have not been able to pay that. So, we are hungry and on top of that I am now really anxious about not paying my rent. I earnt enough money this month to pay my rent and buy us food and everything on top, but it is sitting in my PPH account, and I cannot access it. This morning, my son’s school had to arrange a delivery from our local food bank. I have never, ever had to ask for anything like this before, but we had no choice.
I have not heard anything from PPH that makes me understand why they are doing what they are doing. I simply do not believe that in the world of instant payments, high tech and on-demand services why they need to hang on to our money for 18 days. It just won’t work for me in the long term, but at the moment, I am wondering what we will do in four days’ time when the food runs out, when I can’t pay my internet bill leading me not being able to work at all and when the stress of this will just be too much to bear.
I hope people don’t think I am being overdramatic, for some freelancers this will just be a frustrating experience, but for some of us, this is having real life, damaging effects on our lives and the lives of the people we love- and I am sure I am not alone.
Please comment below and tell PPH how this is affecting your life if you can.
Yours Sincerely,
Meri Williams
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What are you trying to achieve going to the media? PPH to reverse their decision? Media outlets such as the guardian even if they pick up the news story would research and see other freelancer sites impose clearing and that freelancers outside of these site are recommended by IPSE to impose a 30 day invoice term. Even the news outlets who use freelancers have a 30-60 day invoicing system. PPH if questioned will use the same information given to us - compliance and commercial decision (not happy they are free to use other platforms which have the same t&cs). I am all for everyone to have the same clearing time but apart from the lack of notice or poor communication they are no different to Upwork and Fiverr. Good luck with your campaign though
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@ALL. This is the message I'm going to send to media outlets. I'll start by The Guardian. Please share any comments about anything in my message. If you think I should change, add or remove anything, just tell me before I start mass mailing different outlets.
Dear Editor,
Good day.
The story I am going to share with you is a case example of extreme worker abuse. This is not just my own story but a story of so many freelancers investing so many hours, working so hard, making decent personal income, and, not least, making a platform – PeoplePerHour (PPH) – profitable. I am not going to get into much details (which of course I and so many are all too willing to share, if and when required) but I am only going to share only one recent story of freelancer abuse: Ms. Meri Williams.
In a recent and sudden change in platform policies (something becoming more frequent at PPH), freelancers woke up to a bizarre policy change making earnings withdrawal from freelancer PPH account much longer, practically 14 days “Standard” for most freelancers who do not qualify for an extremely high benchmark to get paid within 7 “Fast” or 3 “Express” day brackets.
The floor, I believe, should be given to Ms. Williams whose Open Letter to PPH is left unanswered – just as many questions by so many freelancers who are left to wonder about when, of if, payment for work already done is going to be available:
QUOTE
Dear People Per Hour,
I wanted to let you know just how much havoc, chaos and panic you have caused in my life since you announced your decision to subject us to the new payment clearance process and times. If you are a freelancer reading this, please comment below so we can try to support each other and so that we can let PPH know what damage this is causing us and that we, as freelancers, are not only the lifeblood of the platform but also real people with real lives and families to support.
I am a freelancer, but I am also a single parent to two young children. We have all lived through a year and a half of the most disruptive time in any of our lives due to the pandemic. I am sure it hasn’t escaped PPH’s attention that freelancers have had a rough ride during this time. I am mainly referring to the UK here as that is where I am from, but I am sure these problems are global for freelancers. As freelancers, we did not enjoy the benefits of furlough, of the Job Retention Scheme and many of us were not eligible for government grants or benefits. As we start to move out of the pandemic, many of us are reeling from the effects and have now been served a huge blow by PPH-a platform that is supposed to support us as freelancers and make our lives easier-by making us wait up to 18 days to receive money we have earned and worked hard for.
I don’t know about other freelancers, but my family relies solely on the money I earn from PPH and we live from invoice payment to invoice payment. We don’t live beyond our means, there is only me earning money and I work very hard.
On Friday, I came to the realisation that due to the new payment clearing processes, we did not have enough food to last us the weekend, let alone 18 more days. My rent was due on Friday, and I have not been able to pay that. So, we are hungry and on top of that I am now really anxious about not paying my rent. I earnt enough money this month to pay my rent and buy us food and everything on top, but it is sitting in my PPH account, and I cannot access it. This morning, my son’s school had to arrange a delivery from our local food bank. I have never, ever had to ask for anything like this before, but we had no choice.
I have not heard anything from PPH that makes me understand why they are doing what they are doing. I simply do not believe that in the world of instant payments, high tech and on-demand services why they need to hang on to our money for 18 days. It just won’t work for me in the long term, but at the moment, I am wondering what we will do in four days’ time when the food runs out, when I can’t pay my internet bill leading me not being able to work at all and when the stress of this will just be too much to bear.
I hope people don’t think I am being overdramatic, for some freelancers this will just be a frustrating experience, but for some of us, this is having real life, damaging effects on our lives and the lives of the people we love- and I am sure I am not alone.
Please comment below and tell PPH how this is affecting your life if you can.
Yours Sincerely,
Meri Williams
END OF QUOTE
As matters stand, many freelancers are joining what amounts to a campaign to petition PPH whose staff remain completely silent:
The following are PPH details:
Website: https://www.peopleperhour.com/
Company Information (@Companies House):
PEOPLE PER HOUR LTD:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06369697
PEOPLEPERHOUR HOLDINGS LIMITED:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12570043
I, just as many freelancers at PPH, appeal to your sound judgment and sense of justice to make our case public and, if possible, expose all excesses, and perhaps violations, PPH has committed so far against many (so many) freelancers from so many backgrounds, nationalities, professions and age groups.
I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
Best Regards,
Mohamed Tantawy
Cell Phone: +201095372431
Address: 350 1 B Al-Sudan Street, Ahmed Oraby JNC,
Mohandessin, Giza 12411
Egypt
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@ALL. Any input before I hit "SEND"?
@ Thorsten, ALL. I push hardly - really hard - when I experience some injustice. I'm personally hurt and Meri's letter was only the last straw. As promised. you keep an eye n this thread because I'm taking this really personally and I'll do what it takes to bring PPH to their knees.
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@ALL. I've done some proofreading and added only one line (in bold) by the end of the letter. Here is what I think should be the FINAL copy that I'll send to so many media outlets. Once again, if you've got any comments, just share before I hit SEND.
Dear Editor,
Good day.
The story I am going to share with you is a case example of extreme worker abuse. This is not just my own story but a story of so many freelancers investing so many hours, working so hard, making decent personal income, and, not least, making a platform – PeoplePerHour (PPH) – profitable. I am not going to get into much details (which of course I and so many are all too willing to share, if and when required) but I am only going to share one recent story of freelancer abuse. That of Ms. Meri Williams.
In a recent and sudden change in platform policies (something becoming more frequent at PPH), freelancers woke up to a bizarre payment policy change making earnings withdrawal from freelancer PPH account much longer, practically 14 days “Standard” for most freelancers who do not qualify for an extremely high benchmark to get paid within 7 “Fast” or 3 “Express” day brackets.
The floor, I believe, should be given to Ms. Williams whose Open Letter to PPH is left unanswered – just as many questions by so many freelancers who are left to wonder about when, or if, payment for work already done is going to be available:
QUOTE
Dear People Per Hour,
I wanted to let you know just how much havoc, chaos and panic you have caused in my life since you announced your decision to subject us to the new payment clearance process and times. If you are a freelancer reading this, please comment below so we can try to support each other and so that we can let PPH know what damage this is causing us and that we, as freelancers, are not only the lifeblood of the platform but also real people with real lives and families to support.
I am a freelancer, but I am also a single parent to two young children. We have all lived through a year and a half of the most disruptive time in any of our lives due to the pandemic. I am sure it hasn’t escaped PPH’s attention that freelancers have had a rough ride during this time. I am mainly referring to the UK here as that is where I am from, but I am sure these problems are global for freelancers. As freelancers, we did not enjoy the benefits of furlough, of the Job Retention Scheme and many of us were not eligible for government grants or benefits. As we start to move out of the pandemic, many of us are reeling from the effects and have now been served a huge blow by PPH-a platform that is supposed to support us as freelancers and make our lives easier-by making us wait up to 18 days to receive money we have earned and worked hard for.
I don’t know about other freelancers, but my family relies solely on the money I earn from PPH and we live from invoice payment to invoice payment. We don’t live beyond our means, there is only me earning money and I work very hard.
On Friday, I came to the realisation that due to the new payment clearing processes, we did not have enough food to last us the weekend, let alone 18 more days. My rent was due on Friday, and I have not been able to pay that. So, we are hungry and on top of that I am now really anxious about not paying my rent. I earnt enough money this month to pay my rent and buy us food and everything on top, but it is sitting in my PPH account, and I cannot access it. This morning, my son’s school had to arrange a delivery from our local food bank. I have never, ever had to ask for anything like this before, but we had no choice.
I have not heard anything from PPH that makes me understand why they are doing what they are doing. I simply do not believe that in the world of instant payments, high tech and on-demand services why they need to hang on to our money for 18 days. It just won’t work for me in the long term, but at the moment, I am wondering what we will do in four days’ time when the food runs out, when I can’t pay my internet bill leading me not being able to work at all and when the stress of this will just be too much to bear.
I hope people don’t think I am being overdramatic, for some freelancers this will just be a frustrating experience, but for some of us, this is having real life, damaging effects on our lives and the lives of the people we love- and I am sure I am not alone.
Please comment below and tell PPH how this is affecting your life if you can.
Yours Sincerely,
Meri Williams
END OF QUOTE
As matters stand, many freelancers are joining what amounts to a campaign to petition PPH whose staff remain completely silent:
The following are PPH details:
Website: https://www.peopleperhour.com/
Company Information (@Companies House):
PEOPLE PER HOUR LTD:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06369697
PEOPLEPERHOUR HOLDINGS LIMITED:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12570043
I, just as many freelancers at PPH do, appeal to your sound judgment and sense of justice to make our case public and, if possible, expose all excesses, and perhaps violations, PPH has committed so far against many (so many) freelancers from so many backgrounds, nationalities, professions and age groups. That people who are so diverse have come to be so united on one matter (payment policy) should, I strongly believe, mean something has gone so deeply wrong with and at PPH.
I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
Best Regards,
Mohamed Tantawy
Cell Phone: +201095372431
Address: 350 1 B Al-Sudan Street, Ahmed Oraby JNC,
Mohandessin, Giza 12411
Egypt
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I am not so active on PPH anymore, I get clients locally. But seeing this new policy is very sad. PPH was the incubator for my freelancing career, even with 20%+ fees and 4-5 days wait it was bearable. But waiting 18day, at this point they're just seeing how much they can milk this platform because they already dug up its grave.
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I liked 2 things in PPH: the 48 payments and also the bids offers restrictions, which limits no more than -10% of the proposed budget. This is very, very good because there are sites where some people is really doing prostitution and damage the jobs budgets offering their services for coins and making an disloyally competition. Too bad that things changed to bad here.
Other thing is that all of you must diversificate the jobs options and do not be tied to a single freelance web. +10 years ago I started with Freelancer, oDesk, Elance and PPH the same time. After oDesk bought Elance and formed Upwork I continued with them keeping mu ranking and clients. This is what many of you should do, have several work alternatives and avoid to be affected for situations like this one. Best regards.
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I thought the 10% rule was a good one, when it was introduced, but it doesn't really work and can cause problems. It's an automated fix for a much bigger problem that needs a more hands on solution. There is a workaround to it that I have used and I'm sure it is used a lot.
I went after a project that I thought was overpriced when I saw the details. In the end the buyer cancelled the project and posted a private project for me to accept. I have had a few repeat jobs from that buyer and it is always a good rate. A lot of people post projects and have no idea what they are worth and they don't all pitch them too low. I suspect a few of the jobs we see posted but not taken up are either reposted privately or taken off the platform.
Another problem came from a repeat client who contacted me with a direct message. The discussion dragged on for a while and eventually we agreed a price and I completed it and then I couldn't raise an invoice because there was no workstream and the private message thread was too old. The buyer posted it as a project with a meaningless one line description and forgot to mark it private. By the time I found it there were already 5 bids and my price was too low. That was interesting to see that one of these projects with no proper description was actually real and was there for a reason.
I used to play the system with the bidding and undercut other people's prices. If I saw a job I wanted I would leave it for a bit until some bids came in and then I would put a 1 in the box and see what price I was told to raise it to. Sometimes I could put a lower bid that still met my hourly rate. If the prices were low I would not apply.
Most of the projects now have a price on them, and many of them are just unrealistic. I had a recommended project yesterday that was £7. A lot of these are posted by buyers with a lot of projects to their name, and some have the "Very Important Buyer" badge. That tells us something about PPH's priorities and standards. Allowing these sort of projects is destroying the platform. Too many new freelancers are desperate for their first job and will work for anything, just to complete a project. I'm sure it's the same on other platforms. Upwork looks even worse than PPH for this.
I agree with Florin on diversifying. Even if we were completely happy with PPH there is always that risk that we could try to log in one morning and it's gone. Companies don't last forever. Try to get some work on other platforms. Try to have a few direct clients and make sure your repeat clients on PPH have your contact details so you wouldn't lose them if the company suddenly folded. -
@simon I have joined Upwork and Fiverr (mostly not UK buyers) and the project budgets are so low for a clients expectations. I have landed one job so far and like everyone is aware establishing yourself on a crowded platform is extremely difficult, time-consuming and expensive. One praise on Upwork is the moderation I have been pulled up twice for issues in the t&c's so it does show they monitor bids and profiles however PPH is by far the most user-friendly site.
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I use Proz, Freelancer, Translatorscafe and PPH mainly and shy away from Upwork, Fiverr and Guru. The latter 3 are quite rubbish in comparison and their projects are incredibly low value.
Since establishing my company in july 2019 I have had over 20 projects on Freelancer, same for PPH and about a dozen on Proz and Translatorscafe. Portals are not where I get my main business from, I have approx 20-25 direct clients who provide me with enough work on a monthly basis to make good money. Turnover average £2-3K/month.
Moderation on Freelancer is good, they are quite quick and there is an onsite chat module.
But over the past year or so, during lockdown, these sites have been saturated with 'new' freelancers, wanted to earn a quick buck on the side, as well as an influx of eastern european, asian and african 'buyers' and freelancers. Ridiculously low rates, unrealistic projects and expectations, non-payers, duplication of genuine projects by scammers (I once found a project which was copied by 12 'buyers'), false projects where people send you a .js file with and executable code in it to invoke Powershell, etc etc
I am glad I only rely on these portals for a very small portion of my business, and as it looks now I will be closing them all down.
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@Adam. I think the way to break into Upwork is to watch it carefully and pick the right projects. I programme in Excel with macros, VBA etc, and there is no shortage of projects but there are a lot of applicants and some are very low priced, typically $5 or $10 for the project. The better projects are American and I suspect American companies prefer American freelancers in the same way that UK companies prefer UK freelancers, so I find I'm wasting my time going after the projects that I really want and I have to look round the edges for something I can get, and that takes more patience than I usually have. The ranking system is similar to PPH and it is based on earnings, so the two or three $10 projects I did to begin with have been no use to me at all. It just makes me feel dirty doing that amount of work for that price. The low value projects get me angry and I walk away and I need to mentally filter them out and look past them.
I signed up with Fiverr last week but I wish I had not seen it. It's obscene seeing what people are offering to do for the price.
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Hi Steven,
Ditto with my funds, nowhere to be seen or to be released.
I created a support ticket requesting an official statement from PPH on their new policies etc and this was their -standard- reply:
"Hello Thorsten,
This is Nick from PPH and I will be your advisor on this case.
We are aware of Freelancers' Feedback over this and surely, your comments will be addressed to the appropriate department as it is extremely important for us and the PPH community.
Having that said, please note that I am not able to guarantee for an official PPH answer on those related threads (or any timeframe of when that could happen). I can reassure you though that your Feedback will be reviewed by our Team.
Thank you,
Nick
PPH Customer Support" -
@Steven, Thorsten
I am in the same situation. Waited 2 weeks for processing, withdrew my money on Sunday morning, it is now Wednesday and still no sign of my money. I double checked the 'Transactions' page and noticed it says '48 business hours', so if they are only available 8 hours a day say, does that mean we have to wait a further 6 days, plus weekends?! This is getting ridiculous!
Thanks for sharing your CS response, Thorsten. I get the impression they are getting inundated with complaints, yet there still seems to be no transparency!
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@Thorsten, Simon, Vicky, Florin, Adam
So, as you can see guys, your way of kissing a criminal's (aka PPH) ass is of no use. You've been polite, patient, and committed. What did you get? Lame answers and complete disdain to freelancers.
@ALL. That said, anyone here mind I scrap all your comments here into a sheet I'll use to write a copy about PPH? I'm still so persistent to make PPH sorry. Don't think this is a waste of time.
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@ALL. HOW CRIMINALS WORK.
Just a reminder to all of you who have got rosy promises from a scammer. This post, published March 24, 2020, made a very bold announcement about helping small businesses and freelancers. I'll quote opening paragraphs and you are for sure to compare notes between what was said and what is happening now:
https://www.peopleperhour.com/blog/buyers/10m-pledge-for-freelancers-small-businesses/
"Today, we’re delighted to announce that we are pledging £10m in an initiative to help small businesses and freelancers over the coming months of 2020. As the UK’s largest freelance marketplace, and one of the pioneers in enabling remote working, we believe it’s our responsibility to offer support to the freelancer and SME communities during this time of crisis.
The aim of the initiative is to support business continuity for our community and prevent loss of earnings worldwide. The money will be used to provide small businesses with free freelancer resources on the PeoplePerHour platform."
Now let me move on to quoting our lovey PPH CEO whom I've been researching for a while:
"As long-standing supporters of small businesses and the self-employed, we feel it’s our responsibility to step up to the challenges that this virus presents to our community. Acting together, we are stronger than one.
We are absolutely committed to supporting our community as they fight to survive this crisis in any way we can."
It'd be so nice of all of you to share your comments on this larger than life promises at the start of the pandemic. Also, it's quite interesting to see how you're being helped now by extending your payment periods at a time you need access to your money most?
Anyone feels PPH has helped in any way?
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@Thorsten, Vicy. Maybe these extra 51.5 hours are for even more "additional security checks." It's nice you're documenting your experiences guys and that you are showing how PPH is processing your payments according to the new payment policy. But the thig is, I believe it's all random. I mean some payment patches might happen to be delivered within the same time frame ("2 weeks + 51.5 hours") but the tragic reality is that even within the same payment clearing period ("Standard"), there appears to be people who get their money within 2 weeks, others within 2 weeks+ a few hours, and others within 2 weeks+ a few more days. So, 14 days is just nothing. It's a random number. They send money when they can or want to. Let's see what others say about this.
This is an Animal Farm situation we are all in:
All Animals Are Equal But Some Are More Equal Than Others.
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@Adam, ALL. Reduction? Actually, you should not have had high fees in the first place. It's like when you're overcharged and then when the seller reduces the price, you're thankful. Plus, it's the whole transparency about how and why commissions should be that way or another. You see what I mean? Of course, in a random system like this, some people might gain but overall all, as you can clearly see, many are not. So, at least if some are to gain, PPH would have justified that. It's all about TRANSPARENCY as many have said already. We, freelancers, are just hit by bizarre policies without notice and I can tell you a very interesting example on this. In short, I suggested freelancers get commission reductions not when they achieve a certain income limit with only ONE buyer but with different buyers. That makes more sense because when you work with more than one buyer this means you've done it the harder way and that you've brought new customers to the platform, if they are newbies, or a new customer to you. In all cases, PPH is winning. But when you achieve their specified income level with only ONE buyer, so much less gain is achieved because you've a loyal customer and actually you'd sometimes have to offer him some discounts to retain him. This is Marketing 101, Adam. So, even in doing business PPH seems so erratic and random about keeping and growing customer base. If anyone disagrees to this, please let me know where I'm wrong.
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@Mohamed
The thing is, it does state within 48 business hours, so 51.5 actual hours does fall within this timeframe. It's just such a long time to wait for hard-earned money and is causing a lot of stress for many people. I understand that other platforms have a similar policy, so they're just aligning themselves with them, but a bit of prior notice and more transparency would have been helpful. I agree with Adam that the reduced fees were a big help, it's just a shame that we now have to wait so long for that money. -
@Vicy, Adam, ALL.
So, if you do not have an issue, at least a big issue, with PPH's new payment policy and your only problem is that it's taking longer than usual, so what the heck is this all about? And suppose you happen to be making equal to or more than that is required to get paid within 7 0r 3 days, would you have been here sharing comments? Or, is it because you happen not to be making enough money in the last 2 months that you're not happy?
BIG DIFFERENCE.
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Just had this from customer service in response to me asking if anyone had seen the threads and if anyone was going to comment:
Hi Meri.
I'm responding to your query as my colleague Nick is currently unavailable, and I can assure you that management is aware of both threads, and of user feedback regarding the change.
To respond to your points, we're very sorry to hear the impact that our payments process has had on you. We understand it's been a tough year and a half for everyone and we are sorry that the changes to our clearing period happened as quickly as they did. We completely understand the frustration, but unfortunately this is a necessary process as we have grown and have to meet new regulations. Please see our blog here that explains the reasons for this.
We know that 2020 hit the self employed the hardest and that was why we lowered our fees to the lowest fee tiers in the market, to further support our community of freelancers during these uncertain times. Again, we are truly sorry that you have been impacted in this way. We're looking into improving our customer service process to ensure that people are responded to as quickly as possible moving forward and we’ll do our best to make sure that our communication on similar changes is better in the future.
Best wishes,
Ioannis
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@Meri, ALL.
This is the soundbite:
"We completely understand the frustration, but unfortunately this is a necessary process as we have grown and have to meet new regulations. Please see our blog here that explains the reasons for this."
Practically, this means nothing is going to change. So, people can talk as much as they can but nothing will change. Bullshit!
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@Mohamed. I wouldn't actually call PPH "scammers". They are unethical and dishonest and I've never really trusted them, but I have earned money here and I'm sure I can earn some more. I don't read their marketing statements because it's just marketing. It is not there to be believed. Maybe your companies in Egypt set a higher standard. I think they probably are breaking some laws over contracts and employment but if I had the money or the time to challenge them in court, I wouldn't need the work in the first place. I just try to work around them as best I can. I don't have to like them and they don't have to like me.
My interests with PPH are as follows:1. Can I find some work?
2. Can I get a decent rate?
3. Will I get paid at the end of it?
4. Will some of it become regular work?I'm not interested in the CEO or his lifestyle. I have a passing interest in whether there is a board of directors making decisions or someone on their own, and if it is someone on their own, do they have a successor if they want to get out? Other than that I don't really care.
I'm angry that other freelancers have been put into a difficult position by the new payment system. It doesn't affect me too much because other payments I get are no faster and some are much slower. If I send someone an invoice directly, I won't even send a reminder for 30 days. Most of my clients are in the UK, and they are some of the worst for paying in the world. 30 day payment terms are quite common and a lot of companies don't keep to it. Some won't pay an invoice until they get a reminder and sometimes it has to be a threat.
If I could get enough work somewhere else, I wouldn't come back here.
On a more positive note, my last withdrawal has been approved. That is 14 days to clear, and then I requested the withdrawal and it took less than 2 days for approval. It is not in my bank account yet. So far it is following the new times. -
@Mohamed
"@Thorsten, Simon, Vicky, Florin, Adam.So, as you can see guys, your way of kissing a criminal's (aka PPH) ass is of no use".
I understand your position and I agree with you in the most part of the aspects. This situation is absurd and people who is working here since years ago must take a firm attitude against this abuse. Nobody is kissing anything, there are only persons hanging of a tread, worried about their future, maybe scared and deeply deceived for the way how PPH is treating us. I kindly recommend you to avoid this kind of offences and moderate your language when we treat each other. We are all on the same side and unity is our weapon. Best regards.
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"We completely understand the frustration, but unfortunately this is a necessary process as we have grown and have to meet new regulations."
Strange how these "regulations" are never actually specified. And what regulations would apply to people earning under £2000, apply less to those earning 2-6K, but then all but disappear for figures over £6K? Surely the higher the figure, the more likely there is to be money laundering involved, but somehow that means less time needed to check? Eh?
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