An Open Letter to People Per Hour: Please Comment Below on Payments

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  • Meri

    Perhaps Simon...

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  • Yuriy

    @Meri

    freelancers have already been punished, we have nothing to lose

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  • Meri

    So what do you suggest in terms of direct action Yuriy?

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  • Florin

    For now and till they'll keep this bulls***t conditions I stopped bidding. I am not loosing anything but they are.

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  • Yuriy

    @Meri

    to begin with, define goals and unite efforts, find another place for communication (this forum or PPH may cease to exist at any time)

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  • Meri

    @Florin- same here. 

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  • Yuriy

    If PPH has a lot of TOP freelancers with monthly earnings of more than 2000 £ and that's enough for them, so be it, but I don't believe in it.
    This is bluff and deception.

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  • Florin

    @Yury

    You are so right man, I think the same. I bet that at least the %90 of the freelancers are doing less than 1000 £, much less. Projects, with feu exceptions are dancing around 50 - 200 and dozens of people fighting for the bite. Jobs are awarded randomly, many employers look for cheap but not for excellence, for quality. I have a high level in artistic cartography and maps designs and never, ever I reached even 1000/month during 10 years. 

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  • Meri

    Yes, I agree with both of you Yuriy and Florin. So apart from a few exceptions, everyone is on the 14 days clearance period. It would be interesting to hear from any freelancers who benefit from the 7 days or 'express' 3 days. 

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  • Rachel

    I'm on the 7 day one...for now.  But it still ends up being way longer than 7 days, and is still a pain is the arse.  

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  • Meri

    I was on the 7 day one until the 1st of July then went to the 14 day one. 

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  • Florin

    No chance Meri. If there are some blessed colleagues who are doing 2000-3000 per month they will never join or support us. They are not interested about "the other" problems. It's the usual attitude of the human being.

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  • Rachel

    But considering this is about rewarding "loyalty" and "high-earners", it will only take me a few weeks of poor sales to drop off that, and then where's the reward...again, it's nonsense.  

     

     

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  • Simon

    When they raised the fees a few years ago they hit the low earners first, then the people who had low earnings in any month and then they introduced it to everybody. Even people who are not affected now should take notice of it. If this is what's causing the work to drop, it is affecting the high earners now.

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  • Mohamed

    @ALL.

    This post, reposted below, was censored. 

     

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  • Mohamed

    @Yury, ALL.

     

    Please make sure you keep a copy of this very long conversation and any relevant one. As Yury said, this thread and many more might cease to exist anytime. So, make sure you keep a copy of this thread and all relevant conversations.  

     

     

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  • Florin

    @you all

    I still believe this as a strategy. Nobody will take off this hunch from my mind. They put this to 14 days and... after disturb all the community with this crap they will be so nice, so sweet, such adorable and will reconsider this to 7 days. The community will be so happy even the 48 hours are trash now and they won. In 1 month nobody will talk again about this affaire. Remember me. 

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  • Mohamed

    @Florin.

    I understand your concerns about losing steam. Don't worry. I can keep the fire in anyone's ass. 

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  • Florin

    Wow LOL 

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  • Mohamed

    @Florin, ALL.

    Yes. As lo ng as there is fire at someone's ass, do you think she or he can sleep or even lead any sort of normal life (as we humans live it)? Nah! That said, here's my promised report. Stay tuned for more naming and shaming. I'm good - really good - at making bad people sorry and watch for their asses. 

     

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  • Mohamed

    @ALL.

    Copy of report confirmation message.

     

     

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  • Mohamed

    @ALL.

    And since PPH has done nothing - nothin' - about their payment policy or for that matter anything about their CS and platform management, I think it's high time to listen - collectively - to Stevie Wonder's masterpiece "You Haven't Done Nothin'":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjs_sHwMj-0

    [This is an oldie that, with some community help, has been nicely enhanced, although some Chinese subtitling at the intro is a little bit distracting but, overall, this is a masterpiece]

    Enjoy. 

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  • Mohamed

    @ALL. Once again censored. Stupid! 

     

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  • Mohamed

    @ALL. 

    As always, my campaign post has been censored. Stupid PPH!

    You can still search for our campaign at [Change.org]

     

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  • Mohamed

    @ALL.

    For your convenience, address to campaign:

     

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  • Mohamed

    @ALL.

    Share as much as you can and across as many channels you can and find: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, SnapChat, LinkedIn, etc. 

    It takes one user a few seconds to share a post or a link. By sharing more, your shared posts or link literally multiply as many - so many - really read and re-share your posts and links. PPH is going to be a global trend soon.  

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  • Caroline

    PPH has lost its integrity as far as I am concerned Meri. Its long term freelancers and top sellers have helped grow the business yet it has failed to recognise and appreciate us. I very much rely on my PPH income (I’m the sole bread winner trying to support 2 kids and a disabled husband) but will not be bidding for work on PPH unless specifically invited until they change their policy. PPH has broken their contract with me. They have held my money to ransom and would not release it without me having to accept their terms even though I had contracts open that were agreed before they suddenly changed their T&Cs.

    I’m disgusted with how we’ve been treated.

    Mickey Mouse MANAGMENT I’m afraid who don’t work with integrity. Even though not working on the website will lose me income they don’t deserve my money.

    Please do add my name to the open letter.

    Caroline Hill
    TOP CERT | TOP ENDORSED | SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGER | DIGITAL MARKETING MANAGER

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  • Roger

    @ALL

    It doesn't make sense regarding our money stuck on PPH to be allowed to be use for buying services from freelancers and other PPH offerings. 

     

    PPH quote

    Some freelancers have asked why they can spend the money freely on PeoplePerHour while their funds are in clearing. This is because we can retrieve any funds spent on PeoplePerHour products, if any red flags occur during the clearing period.

    End quote

    So this mean the freelancer who has been paid for a job, with funds that are held for clearance of the buyer. Could be taken by PPH if they deem it unclean money? This wouldn't be fair or ethical. This doesn't make any sense PPH. You are willing to use unclean funds to pay for freelance services which you then could take the money? Even if the service/job has been completed?

    Am I missing something here? It makes no sense at all to me.

    Any clarification from PPH would be welcome.

    I also will be slowing down my job proposals on PPH and spending more time on my other income strategies.

    Kind regards

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  • Mohamed

    @ALL.

    I'm glad more and more people are waking up to the reality of PPH. Now it's enough to stop at this point and just go. PPH MUST pay a price.  It's not that freelancers will get any immediate monetary gain but that by being proactive and assertive about your rights, you set standards and make PPH an example for all platforms that might think they can get away with anything.

    I'm not going to let them have a break. I'm exercising all pressure on all sides. It'd be great it some, or better still all of you, exercise all sort of pressure, to bring PPH on their knees. It takes you only a few seconds to do so. I'm even willing to pay money from my own pocket to write a guest post in a or publish a book (as I'm currently doing) about PPH LONG abuse. 

    Abusive Freelancing should not enjoy any impunity.   

    You all may have watched that video where George Floyd had his neck under a police officer's neck and he was barely able to yell, "I can't breathe." 

    Now, I ask you all not to give up and to make PPH unable to breathe. Unlike an inhumane police officer, we freelancers at PPH are cutting the lifeline of PPH to ensure abuse has no place in honest and ethically profitable freelancing. 

    LET PPH BURN. LET PPH DIE NOT BEING ABLE TO BREATHE

    Fight. Share. Keep Your Pressure. Do Not Give Up. 

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  • Marcus

    ...or maybe just pay up on time

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