New system aimed primarily at matching newer sellers with buyers
So now it seems I have to wait two hours before I can bid for a job. This is extremely unfair. Not only do experienced creatives/designers have to compete with an unfair playing field, ie people offered to do a job for £10 when it is clearly worth £100, we are now not allowed to bid for jobs as soon as they appear on PPH. What kind of system is this?!
Awful. Unfair. Unprofessional. Discriminatory.
Regards
C. Howe
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On the subject of low job values, my daughter has done some writing for some arts magazines (she's an Art graduate) and loaded up the PPH app (not at my suggestion) and looked to see if there was a possibility of more writing work. She was totally shocked by the low job values and has now deleted the app. I told her not to waste her time with writing or art-related jobs here.
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@Michael - Although people on here don't know me (including you), I am more than prepared to admit when I'm in the wrong.
this wasn't a number that came off the top of my head. I make sure my facts are correct before i provide them to any customer.
Sorry, but in this case, I think you may have failed.
I remember having the issue that I couldn't post a clarification question, I've even got the original email's to helpdesk regarding that. I have actually just had a look at my history on here, and although I though't I'd sent more, it would appear I have actually sent THREE proposals, so far, and it would have been more IF I'd had responses to clarification questions.
Another reason perhaps why my proposal count is low, is due to when I actually spot jobs, and making the decision (which I shouldn't be penalised for), as to whether to actually bid for them or not. My reasons for my low proposal count, does NOT mean I am not serious about the site, and as pointed out by other users on here, may have something to do with the QUALITY of the jobs themselves, which I have NO control over. Another reason why my proposal count may be low, might be due to the period of time that has elapsed between when the job was posted and I get to look at it, which also has a bearing as to whether I bid or not.
Also, I'd be interested to know exactly what you meant by, certain aspects of your account are quite different to some comments that have been made. I take it you meant comments I've made?
I also agree with Paul that this doesn't help with progress, and I'm not trying to start and have no wish to start a slanging match, but in this case, I believe you're wrong.
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@David, I have complained about many of these but to no avail. This was one of the reasons I suggested that all new users, be forced to to make a sizeable deposit into their accounts that cannot be withdrawn and only given to who they award the work to. Getting your inbox clogged with this crap is a bloody nuisance. I am still waiting to hear back as to whether they are going to get rid of this 'no specified budget' crap as well, not holding my breath obviously.....
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@David, you're right of course, when it comes down to the nitty gritty of it we will always be at the bottom of the food chain. I have just had a job cancelled on me and the client has requested a refund. I get a warning notice that my ranking may be affected by issuing the refund yet I had nothing to do with the bloody thing being cancelled in the first place. The logic is clearly to lick the client arses so they hire us minions then sit back and watch the money roll in from our wallets :(
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@ Paul, I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the heads up if it ever happens again. in this case I had only one piece but we just 'didn't click'. I know of others however who have done lots of work, given refunds then found their pieces published,
Regarding an earlier issue I have been invited today for two jobs which each stipulate that the freelancer will be paid privately by Paypal. Yet more examples of jobs not being checked. I have reported them but what will happen is anyone's guess....
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@Michael -
"The good news is that if you'd like another shot at it you can extend your qualification for another 3 months starting from £6.95/month."
I don't wish to go over possibly old ground, and I don't know if this makes any sense, but.... what I'd be interested to know is what exactly is PPH's definition of a 'serious' freelancer?
Does it mean that basically pph wants people who are going to, at least, place several bids in a month?
Or are you only interested in people who are going to actually win work (of course I realise that winning work is what actually makes money for you)?
What happens if work 'runs dry' for some people, and their bids tail off due to either not bidding on work, (due to not being suitable), or that no jobs are being posted? What happens then? Would pph then start charging those people every month until that situation was reversed, and you refunded the fees?
Also, if after three months, and still no joy, would you just 'extend the qualification' for another three chargeable months?
Do people get penalized (or is it frowned upon), if freelancers receive job alerts supposedly tailored to them, but for reasons of the freelancers own, they don't bid on the job?
I apologise if the answers to these questions are buried somewhere in the help system (perhaps you could point me in the right direction Michael?), but I'm just interested to know how this works.
I'm probably not right, but if I am, then I am thinking that you are potentially limiting the choices that freelancers have as to whether they bid for work or not, which obviously ties in to a certain extent with the 'dodgy jobs' category.
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Hello PPHers,
We will be posting an update shortly as a blog post regarding the seller qualification bidding restriction. Ill add the link once its up and live.
Basically, all members who are either in the 3 month qualification period or who have paid for an extension of the qualification period, will no longer have any restrictions on bidding for any jobs instead of the current structure for ones that we allowed based on skills. We received a large amount of issues with this and it was determined based on your feedback that this was the wrong was to go.
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Hi All,
Few responses to recent messages below.
@Paul, I'm definately up for the challenge
@David, Yes we are all definately listening and i'm hear to really help us get stuck into these challenges so we can all be on the same page.
@Malcolm, I saw your mention re Hourlies, if you need any help or suggestions on how to approach these then let me know as I actually had a good selling hourlie before working for PPH so should be able to offer some advice.
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Sellers in their qualifying period can now bid on any Job thy feel they can deliver.
Basically, all members who are either in the 3 month qualification period or who have paid for an extension of the qualification period, will no longer have any restrictions on bidding for any jobs instead of the current structure for ones that we allowed based on skills
I may be too quick to jump to conclusions here, but does that mean then, that anyone OUTSIDE of this criteria, WILL be restricted in their bidding then, in other words, with the existing keywords system..... that doesn't work well.
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Shouldn't that say
"you will instantly receive quality Proposals from carefully curated Freelancers who might or might not have relevant experience, plus loads of Newbies in their Qualifiying Period who are allowed to Bid on anything because our Algorithm is flawed and they need to win a Job. You will probably find they are more relevant than the Freelancers that we curated for you because the Algorithm is so c**p."
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I don't believe for a minute that these people exist and I think it's a cheap trick to have computers sending out chummy emails purporting to be sent by made-up people.
We know PPH has a skeleton staff, you can see photos of the happy team, and they look very Greek, mostly very male and mostly very hairy.
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I don't like getting the emails either. They are spam and they clog up my inbox.
Like Pie, I don't believe in 'Lucy Clarke' (I seem to remember there's an 'e' on the end) nor do I believe in 'Sophia Jones' who has sent me similar emails. Of course there are real (and doubtless very nice) people with these names but the PPH emails have a strongly inauthentic air. I thought authenticity was the big thing for successful companies nowadays ... So hard to keep up with the curve.
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@David, the emails I have got do not come from no-reply@peopleperhour.com They come from jobpost@peopleperhour.com or support@peopleperhour.com with a "reply to" of no-reply@peopleperhour.com
It sounds to me that someone has messed up when configuring the "reply to" address - or the boilerplate about replying is out of date.
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As far as I'm aware, it has always been 'Lucy Clarke', 'Chloe Evans' and someone else I think, but can't remember who. No idea where 'Luck Clarke' has come from? Oh, and Zoe but it has always said 'Zoe at PeoplePerHour'. Frankly I don't really give much of a **** who they are at the moment (although I take your point if they are indeed fakes), I'd just rather have the PPH system working properly. I am still undecided as to whether to give in and fork out money to pay to be able to bid for any jobs that come up.
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